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It's about the only map uploaded by Viper that doesn't suck. It's pretty easy to spot as a fake.

http://blamethepixel.com/file.php?id=2839

Originally made by Pure of clan QP.
16.04.05 22:12
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can i see the original or any proof that would substantiate you claim?

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16.04.05 22:15
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I'll email you the original ReadMe.

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I suppose that's one "good" thing about my degree (aero engineering), there aren't too many terms/words/etc that have "alternative" meanings.
What, like cockpits, turboshafts, thrust, nozzles, corkscrews, ram drag, payload, flaps, and wind tunnels?
17.04.05 01:57
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I don't see how you even came across this single map that he stole..
His name's on it..maybe the design is just simplier..
17.04.05 03:40
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That is a blatant steal. The original is QP23. He took off their marks on the map. Put his own VIPER on instead of "QP 23".

Actually he went a bit further in trying to dupe people. He removed the flames bit from the right hand side of the map, and moved it all to the left a bit, making the climb's wider.

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Still a blatant ripoff of QP's work though.

lol @ trying to claim one of the most recognisable RRs ever as his own.
17.04.05 04:11
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I don't see how you even came across this single map that he stole..


Someone on WWP hosted it.


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lol @ trying to claim one of the most recognisable RRs ever as his own.


Actually, despite it not seeming to be that way, it makes sense. QP maps are not compatible with WWP--so no one on WWP would have seen them before (that's why you have pure WWPers like ReadMe getting confused).

Oh and, thanks for the backup al2cane.. didn't know you posted on here =]

17.04.05 05:02
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Hmm, interesting.

Looks to me like the map is completely redrawn, though definitely copied from the original. The lines all have pixels at the end of them and corners are missing one - line tool in MS Paint. There are also a lot of changes to tunnel width and length -I'd say it's a remake of the map for wwp, and it seems like it was made (copied) from scratch.
17.04.05 06:14
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Hmm, interesting.

Looks to me like the map is completely redrawn, though definitely copied from the original. The lines all have pixels at the end of them and corners are missing one - line tool in MS Paint. There are also a lot of changes to tunnel width and length -I'd say it's a remake of the map for wwp, and it seems like it was made (copied) from scratch.


He speaks the truth. They are basically the same, but does it actually matter?

17.04.05 10:52
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Hmm, interesting.

Looks to me like the map is completely redrawn, though definitely copied from the original. The lines all have pixels at the end of them and corners are missing one - line tool in MS Paint. There are also a lot of changes to tunnel width and length -I'd say it's a remake of the map for wwp, and it seems like it was made (copied) from scratch.


He speaks the truth. They are basically the same, but does it actually matter?





Yeah, really. I don't really see the big problem with this seeing as it's only an RR map. If he completely stole a map of say..a fort map or a shopper, then I could see the big problem. But basically all an RR map is lines.

17.04.05 16:31
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The point is that this site could get into a legislative battle over the map. Yes, it sounds stupid, but with some people out there, it actually looks like a good idea.
17.04.05 21:58
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Hmm, interesting.

Looks to me like the map is completely redrawn, though definitely copied from the original. The lines all have pixels at the end of them and corners are missing one - line tool in MS Paint. There are also a lot of changes to tunnel width and length -I'd say it's a remake of the map for wwp, and it seems like it was made (copied) from scratch.


He speaks the truth. They are basically the same, but does it actually matter?





Yeah, really. I don't really see the big problem with this seeing as it's only an RR map. If he completely stole a map of say..a fort map or a shopper, then I could see the big problem. But basically all an RR map is lines.




You have no idea how badly I want to slap you right now.

Changing the widths / cutting parts out takes seconds. The map IS stolen, so please remove it. Unless it's legal to slightly resize a map, stick your name on it, and upload it.. (if so.. tell me.. I think I'd like to do it to a few of C1's maps if he has any).
17.04.05 23:43
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Hmm, interesting.

Looks to me like the map is completely redrawn, though definitely copied from the original. The lines all have pixels at the end of them and corners are missing one - line tool in MS Paint. There are also a lot of changes to tunnel width and length -I'd say it's a remake of the map for wwp, and it seems like it was made (copied) from scratch.


He speaks the truth. They are basically the same, but does it actually matter?





Yeah, really. I don't really see the big problem with this seeing as it's only an RR map. If he completely stole a map of say..a fort map or a shopper, then I could see the big problem. But basically all an RR map is lines.




You have no idea how badly I want to slap you right now.

Changing the widths / cutting parts out takes seconds. The map IS stolen, so please remove it. Unless it's legal to slightly resize a map, stick your name on it, and upload it.. (if so.. tell me.. I think I'd like to do it to a few of C1's maps if he has any).



I do have some. (no good RR's though however)

http://www.borntoworm.com/cclan/filesearch.php?filetype=999&metode=author&tops=all&search=C1&rpp =25

About him resizing the map, I doubt he'd go to the trouble of resizing a map to steal. I could see changing the name on it, but not resizing it.
Resizing maps usually make them really ugly and hard to play on.
17.04.05 23:50
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The map is not completely redrawn, the start and finish are exactly the same as the original, and the lines are just slightly repositioned from what I can see... lame :-z

The reason I didn't delete the map is so that you could all see the map for what it is: blatently stolen. I've changed the description now though.

If he had at least given credit to Pure somehow, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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I suppose that's one "good" thing about my degree (aero engineering), there aren't too many terms/words/etc that have "alternative" meanings.
What, like cockpits, turboshafts, thrust, nozzles, corkscrews, ram drag, payload, flaps, and wind tunnels?
18.04.05 03:22
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Bloopy is right. He resized it simply to make it work w/o the original text areas.

I would have liked to see a "Shame on VIPER!" in that description.. but I guess that's just me ;)

Also, a question, does VIPer usually post on these forums?
20.04.05 03:34
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Well, all you'd have to do is try to find his profile amongst all the garbage here on BTP, but I'll do it for you.

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